Exhausted by Constant Arguments About My Gender Identity

Thank you @AngelBehr , for future reference, when talking about gender or sex to someone who is not male or female, please do not say there’s only male or female please and thank you

I want to apologize.. especially to @be6the6anamaly6 I was trying to witness and I did a very bad job at it. God.. my God.. the ONLY in MY belief loves EVERYONE NO MATTER WHAT. Sorry for coming off as judgmental. Not my intention. I think it’s very brave of you or anyone else to own your truth. Especially when it doesn’t conform to society norm.

@Skai literally

A fellow nonbinary here and I completely understand! Some here seem to think we go around parading that we're nobinary but really all it takes is someone finding out even if you didn't tell them or you just wanted to tell them your pronouns and they'll debate your gender and do who knows what else.

@AngelBehr I’m sorry I didn’t notice God was capitalized

@AngelBehr religion sounds cool to have. Nobody is trying to diss your religion. We are saying that, in fact, there is more then male and female. You said your god told you to love through his words. Doesn’t some of that love come in believing what other people say, like, what gender they are? Or, what their genes and hormones, that you say your god gave them, programmed their body to do when they were born? Or what their heart is telling them? Yanno? If your god taught love and acceptance, why can’t you love us, and accept us, for who we are! Lesbian, gay, bi, trans, queer, aromantic, asexual, intersex… you name it! We are all people. We, and society, respect and love you. Will you respect and love us back for who we are?

@lazydaisy because people were not taught things, all the more reason to teach them! Even better to hear it from a community member! I’m trying to be respectful as possible 🙏

Those people are awful it gets so tiring to deal with that

@be6the6anomoly6 to clarify on my response, by scared for no reason, I mean scared of being gay because there’s nothing to be afraid of. @AraS to clarify on my response, I’m sure the author is not being harassed because they are shoving it in people’s faces, however the people’s response is what the problem is.

Just so all of you are aware, you cannot just deny the science that shows that what was previously thought as fact has now changed as new research is conducted. Things change, you cannot live by what a religious text from thousands of years ago said was the norm. Reducing people to their genitals is offensive and narrow-minded. If you refuse to evolve with humanity and its advancements, you will be left behind with everyone else who possesses primitive thinking while the rest of society moves on to greater things.

@JustRachelle ^

@AngelBehr First off, you are not respecting so many demographics by saying that. Second, like @be6the6anomaly6 says, there are six biological sexes. They are as follows: X, XX, XXY, XY, XYY, and XXXY. This can also happen: “While brief and coordinated SRY-activation initiates the process of male-sex differentiation, genes like DMRT1 and FOXL2 maintain certain sexual characteristics during adulthood. If these genes stop functioning, gonads can change and exhibit characteristics of the opposite sex. Without these players constantly active, certain components of your biological sex can change.”(https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/voices/stop-using-phony-science-to-justify-transphobia/) There is also biological basis behind how someone identifies. Here are some quotes from articles I will site. “When the biology gets too complicated, some point to differences between brains of males and females as proof of the sexual binary. But a half century of empirical research has repeatedly challenged the idea that brain biology is simply XY = male brain or XX = female brain. In other words, there is no such thing as ‘the male brain’ or ‘the female brain.’ This is not to say that there are no observable differences. Certain brain characteristics can be sexually dimorphic: observable average differences across males and females. But like biological sex, pointing to ‘brain sex’ as the explanation for these differences is wrong and hinders scientific research.(https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/voices/stop-using-phony-science-to-justify-transphobia/) it’s a good article to read.

Also— for any lgbtq people who still cannot get through to some people, don’t feel the need to over explain yourselves! If people are confused let them be. You did all you could do. Live your truth in peace

Guys let’s all take a breather, please remember everyone was raised differently and some people were not taught things society now deems as common. Also remember if you want to help educate people you must do so in love. Shouting and arguing will cloud anything you are trying to teach them and consequently they will not understand. Civil discourse guys! Sending love

@AraS I agree with the “us vs them” mindset is a bad one to have. However, not leading with what you identify as is troublesome. Asking for pronouns should be the first thing someone does. And by responding in an way that does not fit gender norms is not shoving it into anyones face. Also, the author I’m sure is not getting harassed for that reason. Sometimes people just say and do things that are not under our control, such as harassing someone for their identity

@be6the6anomaly6 I’m sorry you have to go through that every day. Just know you’re not alone in the fight. People are scared for no reason and causes them to lash out. Sucks to live in a patriarchy. They are wrong to say,do, and assume those things, and I hope you know that. Have you found other people in your area that share your identity, at least in an umbrella way?

@lazylay I agree. Only love!! I don’t believe I was “assigned” a gender. We are uniquely made. Think about what it takes to create a human. So much more than just sex. All that goes in to it I believe was created by God. Bible tells us God created male and female and I believe the bottom line is God chooses who we are. He says He knew us even before we were weaved in our mothers womb. Now please understand that I get it. I questioned my own sexuality in my younger days. I have even had relations with the same sex. As I got older I wanted answers and for me those answers came in reading Gods word. Gods main message is LOVE and I choose to love ALL people. I have no authority to judge. I’ve only been instructed to love. I respect that others will not believe the way I do. Doesn’t mean we can’t still love and respect each other. Biggest thing that I love about this app is that we are all so uniquely different yet we share so much of the same issues. There is no judgment here. We all support no matter what and we can share the deepest inner feelings we have and it’s ok. If the world would function like we do here in this app. What an amazing world it would be.

The stigma however presents in nasty ways such as bullying and discrimination. It’s a scary world to live in…. Especially the death rates for LGBTQ people. I just did a paper entitled ‘People are Up for Debate’ in my English class about it, and what causes it. It’s a messed up world out there.

Mistakes happen, this one just happened to be an unfortunate misread and reply. Honestly @Tommy everyone has an identity worth sharing. And sharing identity is part of diminishing stigma.

@Viking I misread Then as They. Someone’s identity never invites judgement, because it is who they are. I don’t appreciate your language either.

@Angelhehr Amazing how you said it! I really don't want to start a debate but I know this platform is very non-judgemental and respectful so I want to ask a question that I am genuinely curious to know the answer. God made two genders, male and female. When you were born you were assigned only one of two. Later on in life you decided that that's not who you are? That your happier to be something else? These questions are not sarcastic and I do want to know the answer. I totally respect you and it's your life I'm not going to judge. Only love 💕

@justRachelle. You said what I wanted to say and way better. I respect how you dress. How you act. I love all people.

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I just stay away from it., it’s actually no argument there! There are only male or female.. however you decide to dress, act etc is your choice but make no mistake… there is only male or female… that’s just a scientific fact… I will never disrespect you or anyone else but if a person brings it to my attention I would have to speak the facts..

@AngelBehr There's only male and female, sure let's go with that. If God doesn't make mistakes, then why do intersex people exist?

Simple - Don’t lead with that fact. I don’t get into that aspect of me with anyone. It’s my life - my choice. Shoving that into others faces - instead of just being a friendly human - encourages pushback and widens the gaps between different groups of ppl. The “us vs them” mindset is a dangerous thing.

@Tommy_Huggins That's the thing though, I usually don't. They just hate the fact that I do not fit their general standard of what a man or woman should look like. I get just looks on good days and straight up harassment on bad days. I think it's because when they find me attractive but can't tell what's in my pants, they're afraid that they might not be straight.

@Lyd people assume that a person's existence invites judgment. One of the most confounding thought processes!! Like! Bitch! Stay in your lane.

Sorry 😥

I know I realized after I sent it...

Lazylay, a more kind/less problematic way to put that would be to say you are not a part of the LGBTQ community, but are respectful.

@lazydaisy you said it way better then me!!

I’m so sorry you have to go through this. I’m not a part of lgbtq and am no expert but i try to be respectful of people living their lives as they want because it’s their life. Please remember you do not owe an explanation. Let them be confused if they are. Hell, walk away if you must! (Unless they’re not mean). Live your life unapologetically ❤️ sending love

I get this all the time as a femme trans man. People suck, and they view people’s identities as up for debate. Which of corse they aren’t. It’s awful, the amount of generalizations that are made as well.

Personally, I'm not so into the whole LGBTQ thing but I still respect you!! You do you, I do me!

Tommy, of corse they don’t. If they did they would understand. Also people who don’t share the identity can be nice too.

I don't get that like... They are not you. They can't tell you how you feel. Your identity is your own. Keep your head up!! You know yourself!! The people will come

Then don't share your identity