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upsettispaghetti

348d

do you guys think that nice people can accidentally abuse someone?

    • Kingswife

      348d

      Yes, for example my mom was too nice of a parent (permissive style) that she didn't help us learn structure, routine, and responsibility which is neglect/abuse

    • Scarlet9904

      348d

      With things like ablism and toxic positivity I think it's far easier then people think to at least emotionally abuse someone. People forget to allow others to have space for how they feel and see the world often times crossing the abusive line in a effort to be right rather then understand.

    • Sunflower.System

      348d

      Yes, when there are deeper problems going on. However, the person is still responsible for it because logically they knew better

      • Kingswife

        348d

        @Sunflower.System I disagree that they knew better

    • upsettispaghetti

      348d

      Your comments have definitely helped me a lot, thank you guys

    • Soskae

      348d

      Definitely! There is a huge difference between nice and good. I assume you are meaning them synonymously but let’s go with the literal words. Nice is transactional; it’s doing things to appear a certain way. Good is doing things because you believe it’s the right thing to do. Lots of narcissists appear to be nice and honestly do a lot of nice things to help facilitate that image and they really do think they are nice people. The YouTube channel Cinema Therapy has a video about the difference between nice and good that I enjoyed lol.

      • upsettispaghetti

        348d

        @Soskae that leads me to another question. Can someone be a good person, but is sometimes nice and sometimes not? 😅

        • upsettispaghetti

          348d

          @upsettispaghetti Like they have good intentions, but are going about it entirely the wrong way 💀

    • mx.mistoffolees

      348d

      Not actual abuse but certainly toxic behavior, which can be super harmful of itself.

    • faustmare

      348d

      Yes. This is possible. I've been a "nice person" but still ended up hurting people because I was so caught up in being that nice person that i didn't take care of myself. And with a history of childhood neglect and a lack of proper emotional education, I was unable to function the same way my peers did when it came to relationships. You can be ingorant and nice. You can be mean and aware. You can have good intentions but end up causing suffering. Someone who "cares too much about others" is soneone that doesn't take care of themself, and likely was never taught how to care for themself. I had to teach myself how to not pour from an empty cup, and that being too worried about others ends up becoming an obsession of the self, as twisted as that sounds. You give yourself to others until there's nothing left, and suddenly you don't know who you are, so you're empty, hollow, and ultimately insecure. This causes depression and by extension can result in destruction of any and all relationships that person has due to negative self talk and denial that anyone loves/cares about them. It's wallowing in self pity. The term for people that become like this is a Narcissist. Deep down, someone might actually want to do good things- but their lack of emotional intelligence actually causes the opposite to happen, and they end up hurting those around them and pushing everyone away.

      • Kmlb5464

        347d

        @faustmare It is this whole entire comment for me! I was just about to say that true narcissist are the nicest people to the outside world. They only hurt and abuse those closest to them. Like you said there is a difference between nice and good, and the good are not always nice. Because sometimes you have to stand ten toes deep behind what's right and what's yours.

    • Drake_Cake

      348d

      I think nice people can damage someone's mental health. I've seen good intentioned parents doing things to their kids that's very psychologically damaging. Like making an autistic kid make eye contact with you all the time or teaching them masking skills. I think the difference between abusive and damaging is that something damaging happens on accident. Actual abuse is intended harm and manipulation

    • SueLaBear

      348d

      I think it's possible. Generational trauma seems to be the thing I see the most when it comes to something like that. The first generation experiences trauma and they never get help to cope with it. That generation then goes on to raise the next generation hurting or abusing that generation in the process. And most of the time the older generation doesn't realize what they're doing to the younger generation. And then the cycle continues until someone out of a future generation decides to end the cycle after realizing the hurt and abuse all due to the first generation that experienced trauma. It's happened in my family a lot and there's many stories that I could tell. Most certainly if the walls of my home could talk there'd be a lot they'd have to say about the topic.

      • upsettispaghetti

        348d

        @SueLaBear I'm the exact same, that is exactly what I experience but maybe to a lesser degree. They want what's best for me, they're not trying to hurt me.

    • MilkJoey

      348d

      i feel like anyone is capable of abuse and sometimes they aren't aware. if they're truly kind and they get called out for it, they'll feel remorse and change for the better

    • upsettispaghetti

      348d

      Like I'm genuinely curious

      • Del97

        348d

        @upsettispaghetti if you’re nice and have good interpersonal skills like listening you prob can’t accidentally be abusive. Being abusive requires intentional manipulation or neglect of a persons boundary’s and feelings. But you could still hurt someone’s feelings accidentally, just not full on abuse. It is like teasing someone, you have to do it somewhat intentionally

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