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thats.rough.buddy

289d

How can I fix a situation with my roommate/ best friend? I can't even completely tell if we're fighting and she doesn't always communicate clearly. (We're both Autistic). We got along all of last year, but the day before move-out, we had a fight over something silly that caused me to have a meltdown. From then on, she told me if something she does upsets me, I should tell her in the moment. Things have been awkward ever since, or at least I feel like she's been distant with me and hasn't been making an effort to see me like before. So I've been making the effort instead, and I don't mind because I love her. So today we were making a new roommate agreement because in a month we'll be staying with two male friends we've never lived with before. We said that we should say any rules we want in the agreement and no rule is dumb. They added the usual rules like "ask before using other ppl's things," "clean up your own messes," and "knock before entering a room." I added "be appropriately clothed in common areas, such as don't wear just boxers," because it feels reasonable and ik some guys like to wear boxers around places. She then said "that's common sense, I don't think we need that." I explained that I just wanted to communicate it just in case so there's no future issues, but she stuck to her original statement. This hurt my feelings because it was a rule that mattered to me, and I don't understand how it's different from the other obvious rules. I then DMed her to ask if she was trying to roast me or if she was just genuinely trying to state a fact. She then told me I should know better than to think she was mean. I then apologized for using the wrong word and told her I didn't mean it like that, what I meant was "tease." I told her I know she'd never be mean and I was sorry for hurting her. I then told her that her saying my rule was common sense hurt my feelings because, even tho I know 100% she didn't mean it this way, it came across as condescending. She asked how it was condescending. I told her that her saying "it's common sense" is like going "well that's obvious," and it made me feel like I just shouldn't have said anything. I told her I was just trying to communicate my rule to avoid future issues. She then said "but it is obvious tho." I told her I know it is, but so are most of the other rules. She responded with "ok" and I couldn't tell if she was upset, so I restated: "I was just trying to communicate clearly that saying something I said is common sense hurts my feelings. I apologize if I went about it the wrong way." She said "ok. fine." I still couldn't tell if she was mad bc normally she'd respond with something like "understood, thx for telling me" and it felt off, so I said "lu <3 Thank you for hearing me out." bc she always responds to me saying ily with an ily. She only responded with an "ok. fine." She never says "fine." to me, it's strange. But also she does text weird, so idk. Is she upset? I'm scared to ask her because if she is upset, asking her will make her more upset because I can't tell. If she's not upset, then asking her will make her think that I think she's mean. Should I just wait until she tells me she's upset (if she is)? If she doesn't ever tell me she's upset, but still seems off when we move in, what do I do? Should I have just never brought my issue up in the first place since it's not like it was a huge deal to begin with? She's my best friend, I don't want to lose her over us fighting about dumb stuff (if we're even in a fight?). I'm tired of things being off between us.

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    • mobilityaidbabe

      288d

      I'm autistic too and one thing that helped me out is the mindset that you can only control yourself. She is a grown person and it's not your responsibility to manage her emotions. If she is mad, she needs to either tell you so you both can work it out, or let it go. You said your good intentions, apologized for the misunderstanding, and stated your boundaries kindly and clearly. All you can do now is trust that she'll follow your boundaries and take her word for it being fine unless she shows otherwise. She may just need time to get over her emotions, but if she is mad it's her problem. Hold your boundary because you deserve to be validated for your experiences 💕💕

    • YoLandiPandi

      286d

      Unfortunately not everyone has common sense, so you're rule should be validated. I've had male stranger roommates walk around in boxers and one that I caught twice going from his room to the shower naked.

    • RobertRees

      287d

      Non-autistic thoughts ... Hi, As for being compassionate, I don't see any reason u should worry about that. Seems very clear you're doing all u can to be thoughtful & caring. So even if there's disagreement, she should have no doubt about that part of things. On the roommate rules, I think you're both right - it is common sense, especially from an old fashioned guy (me) perspective, that we shouldn't walk around in boxers, or any other underwear, in front of women, (or kids of course). I wouldn't even do so w/gf or wife, it's just a lazy & stupid thing to do. *But - as we all know, many adults don't behave like adults these days, it's unfortunate & annoying, but I'd our reality for now. So I don't think it's unreasonable at all if u want that, or any other common sense rules in the agreement. And the guys shouldn't mind at all, their main thought on the arrangement should be doing whtvr they can to make sure u & your friend are comfortable.

    • SunBeem

      287d

      My roommate and I are both autistic and have been best friends and living together on and off for five years, and OH BOY have I been in your spot before. There have been plenty of things I have tried to gently suggest and gotten nothing but defensiveness and annoyance in return. In my experience, we as autistics tend to take things pretty personally, so it's honestly possible that she's feeling like YOU are upset with HER and isn't sure how to handle it? Idk. Maybe not. My general rule w people is that if they don't TELL me they're mad, I'm going to assume they aren't, because there's no need to be sneaky about being angry or upset, but this may not always be the best approach. What I've had the most success with when dealing with my roommate/friend is just... Giving/taking space. We are both super reactive and they tend to be a less direct communicator than me, so the pattern is I bring something up, they get defensive (and sometimes that is bc of guilt for feeling like they've done something wrong), I leave them alone so *I* don't get pissy, and then often, the problem will kind of solve itself once we have both had time to process and settle. Idk if any of this helps but I hope it does!

    • KratomEater

      287d

      Also to add I don’t know the whole story and I’m not there every day. That being said I know being friends and living with someone is very different. Certain things can over time run people the wrong way. If gone unchecked or communicated this can cause tension in relationships. It’s not easy navigating this life when we’ve been taught to push our emotions deep down and hide our feelings from others

    • mobilityaidbabe

      288d

      I'm autistic too and one thing that helped me out is the mindset that you can only control yourself. She is a grown person and it's not your responsibility to manage her emotions. If she is mad, she needs to either tell you so you both can work it out, or let it go. You said your good intentions, apologized for the misunderstanding, and stated your boundaries kindly and clearly. All you can do now is trust that she'll follow your boundaries and take her word for it being fine unless she shows otherwise. She may just need time to get over her emotions, but if she is mad it's her problem. Hold your boundary because you deserve to be validated for your experiences 💕💕

    • Redvelninja

      289d

      She does I mean

    • Redvelninja

      289d

      Hmm.. it's common for us autistics to feel like we have to mask ourselves because the world in general doesn't understand or accept us. She might feeling contemptment towards her life in general and is on self defense. Because of this, we get reactive towards anything due to trauma. To the rest of the world, we're either "weak", "a jerk" "selfish" or even get labeled as "toxic". Just because someone has toxic tendencies doesn't necessarily mean that they are toxic. Man, issues like trust issues are one unique hell. It just sounds like to me that maybe she has a hard time trusting people and went through something that you have no idea about. How about just don't pressure her to be someone that she isn't, show some compassion and love towards her, and show her that you have enough empathy that you can fully accept and understand her as she is. Putting on a mask because of other people and society is enough hell to go through. Just show her that you are a safe enough space to be able to relax and take the mask off. Just say something like "Hey I understand that the pressure that you go through must be exhausting. I just want you to know that you can relax here and be yourself and me and you know that some things are obvious and that I shouldn't have to state them, but sometimes people forget things and I feel like it's important to go over these details." Yes, communication is key to any relationship but also understanding and compassion are important too. And I think that she might also have a hard enough time explaining her very complex feelings. She might have issues that pertain to trust, respect, and dignity. Us Autistics have a very hard time with change so something all of a sudden happen, even if discussed, causes a whirlwind of emotions and of discomfort. So, it might be overwhelming to her and you just refuse to understand her side of things, just probably putting those labels onto her before trying to have an understanding of why she reacted and behaved the way it does. Understanding and accepting us makes a whole difference.

      • msen24

        288d

        @Redvelninja 💛

      • thats.rough.buddy

        289d

        @Redvelninja I know she never means to hurt me. But what do I do when she does? I also mess up social cues A LOT, and she'll correct me and give me an idea for something I could have said instead, and so I try to apologize and change the behavior going forward. However, when I do the same, she gets defensive (but I don't blame her, I know being told you said something hurtful can really sting, I'm not angry with her at all, I just don't want her to be mad at me). Would a better approach be to stop correcting her and to just talk to a therapist instead when she says something really hurtful because I know she doesn't mean it, or should I try to keep telling her how I feel and try to not take it personally when she responds with anger? I don't want to change her, I love her so much and she's an amazing friend, I think I've only ever told her she's hurt me like three times maybe in the two years I've known her because I usually let the rest of it roll off my shoulders. Some things just genuinely hurt me though and need to be talked about.

        • KratomEater

          287d

          @thats.rough.buddy she was clearly upset you called her out on how she downplayed your concerns. In fact she took it personally enough to passive aggressively make you feel bad for voicing how what she said made you feel. That’s a backhanded way of gaslighting without directly saying that she’s mad because you made her feel bad for making you feel bad. She may not even know it, and if this is a common thing she does, you may need to rethink the friend or have an actual serious face to face talk. Texting a lot of times can come across as cold and inhuman. More often than not I’ve see people get mad and jump to conclusions or take things personally because they can’t see your emotion and feel the energy by being there in front of you. I really hope you work this out because it seems like this friendship means a lot to you. I hope she realizes that as well and shares the Mutual feeling. Good luck and sending good vibes!

        • Redvelninja

          289d

          @thats.rough.buddy maybe she doesn't see it that way.. ? Idk I'm trying to put things in perspective

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