Struggling with Identity: Am I a System or Not?

@NightmaredAsylum endogenic system just refers to systems not caused by trauma. It’s been long established that system hood can be induced, meaning someone can do certain things to cause you to split (and frequently this is traumatic, through torture, abuse, or brainwashing, but it doesn’t have to be). Additionally there’s centuries spanning spiritual traditions that involve inducing plurality. There’s a reason the DSM V has exceptions to DID, OSDD, DDNOS, etc. for these type of things. One type of religious plurality is the Buddhist praxis of making a tulpa. This has been used by the plural community at large for any instance of intentionally created headmate, under the practice name of “tulpamancy.” But tulpa is a buddhist religious praxis and shouldn’t be appropriated and removed from its cultural context. This doesn’t make self proclaimed tulpa systems fake, it just means they’re divorcing religious terminology from its religious culture in order to have language that describes their experiences. But again, externally and self induced plurality is something that’s been around for centuries at a bare minimum, and probably longer than that. Additionally a lot of DID etc. systems that have managed to integrate well, recover, and not really be disordered in their experience anymore on their own might struggle with getting a diagnosis. Leading both non affirming therapists and judgemental people to claim that they’re fake. Some systems might then feel that endogenic is the right term for them so as to find community since they’re being unfairly and cruelly ostracized and harassed for something that is a real, lived experience. Non traumatically inducing systemhood isn’t “fake”, it’s just different. And it’s mentioned as an exception in the DSM. (So as to not pathologize cultural praxes. Fakeclaiming is just another form of bullying really, you can’t know someone’s experiences for real unless you are them. Invalidating entire swathes of human experience doesn’t do anyone any good lol I know it’s probably distressing to watch someone enjoying plurality when you’re like… bleeding some of your most precious memories due to amnesia, etc. I know we sometimes get horribly upset when endogenic systems are like… fine and having fun, it feels horribly unfair and unjust. But that doesn’t mean it IS unfair, it’s just feelings. And lashing out at people that haven’t done anything, trying to make us feel better about our jealousy isn’t going to help anybody. It’d just be a hurt DID system trying to destroy some other system’s identities. Which is messed up 😅 Anyway, many would say your experience is fake. But we’ve met other BPD neurogenic systems, and even still what gain does anyone receive from invalidating your experiences? And more importantly, what harm might you suffer from having your experiences and identity invalidated?