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Has anyone else experienced anxiety related to being a religious minority or atheist? My background information is super long, feel free not to read it: I was raised in a mixed-religion household by an agnostic Daoist father and a Freemason (Eastern Star) mother. I have been an atheist for my entire life. I was raised more with my father’s religion than my mother’s. Instead of church, I grew up going to monthly hall/temple meetings despite being a child (which is usually not allowed). The temple was very ornate and beautiful inside. But, even many of the Masonic concepts seemed foreign to me as a child because I was more familiar with Daoist beliefs. I felt like an outsider, even here in the hall, because I also knew atheists are not allowed in Masonry. My mom has never known that I’m not religious, and she enjoyed taking me with her, so I felt like I had a big secret to keep. (I know masons don’t consider themselves to be a religion. My experience being raised with it as a child makes me feel that it is “close enough” for the purpose of this conversation.). I remember feeling a sense of anxiety as a child because I knew that everyone around me was raised with a completely different set of beliefs, which I knew nearly nothing about. I also feared that many of my peers had been told negative things about people like me & my family by their parents and religious leaders. I knew that they automatically assumed I must be familiar with religious concepts which I’d never heard of. I feared that they would immediately become suspicious & distrustful of me if I accidentally “let on” that I did not share the dominant religion. I had that fear, of being distrusted & demonized for being an atheist or being from a religious minority family, from the time I began Kindergarten. I was afraid of being “found out.” I would feel isolated when people discussed religious concepts I had never heard of as if they were basic knowledge. When I was 12, people finally began figuring out that I hadn’t been raised with the dominant religious background. I was correct in my assumption. When people figured it out, or when they deliberately got me alone so that they could force me to confess, they would react with disgust. Shock. Rage. Fear. Interrogations, accusations, and eventually angrily shouting a series of rapid-fire Bible trivia questions at me for 40 minutes while I meekly said I didn’t know the answers was how the first therapist I ever saw reacted. I was 16 at the time, and that’s just one example. The first time that somebody found out, I was 12. This first incident was nowhere near as dramatic, but it confirmed that my fears had been right, all along. I was at quiz bowl practice. Our coach gave us a practice question about an event from the Bible. She always told us that we should guess, even if we have no clue, because the tiny chance of a random answer being correct is better than a 0% chance by saying nothing. I meekly buzzed in and answered incorrectly, guessing that this strange event could have occurred in a specific sci-fi/fantasy novel. Our coach then stared at me with complete disgust. Our practice stopped in its tracks while she grimaced angrily at me for a long time, something she had never done before. In that instant, I knew she had “found me out.” It felt like the floor had been pulled out from under me - I had finally slipped up badly enough that someone found me out. And she reacted just like I had feared, with immediate distrust. How am I so sure that she was angry? Well, this was at a small school in a rural area, and I had just claimed that an event from the Bible was from a sci-fi novel (which I now know was the story of FREAKING Adam & Eve...) - meanwhile just two minutes earlier I had correctly answered a question about a teaching from the Quran. We had learned about it recently in Social Studies... I think it’s safe to say her look of anger was not something I imagined. She seemed to have assumed that I was raised in Islam. I have to wonder if other students from minority religions, such as Islam, have had a similar experience with a teacher reacting this way. As an atheist, it really hurt that my SCIENCE teacher (the coach) reacted with disgust & anger when I incorrectly answered a question about a religion that I was not raised in. Having the first person to react this way be a science teacher was something that really hit me deeply. It cemented in my mind that there was no one I could trust. And, she would be the first of many people who reacted this way (or much worse). On a slightly related note, I also grew up fearing that, if I was wrong about my atheism, I would be tortured in hell for eternity for being a nonbeliever. I was a toddler when I solemnly accepted this was a possibility that I had to be prepared for. When bad things happened to me as a child, I would tell myself that I was preparing for when I may be sent to hell for being a nonbeliever. I was aware of the concepts of heaven and hell because my dad was also an ex-catholic, and he would talk to me about why he left. So . . . anyone else have experience with anxiety related to being from a religious minority or being an atheist?

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    • jdubz

      779d

      i first wanna say that therapist you saw when you were 16 absolutely should not be a therapist, point blank period. that reaction is wildly inappropriate and crosses so many professional boundaries. your quiz bowl coach/science teacher being angry at you about RELIGION is super ironic. not to say that science and religion are totally mutually exclusive, but the two main theories on the creation of the world are that of science and that of religion. regardless, again super inappropriate, and i’m so sorry you experienced that. my story is this: my dad’s side of the family is ethnically jewish, and he and his brothers were raised in judaism. my mom’s side of the family is catholic, tho her mom was protestant and converted to catholicism to marry my mom’s dad. my dad converted to catholicism as well to marry my mom. i don’t remember hardly anything from my childhood due to ptsd, but apparently when my brother and i were very young we went to sunday school since my mom was a teacher there (i have absolutely no recollection of this). over the next few years, we had even less church involvement and stopped going altogether. in 3rd grade i went to an after school bible club, which was my “choice” but it was heavily influenced by my mom’s catholic family. the next couple years i started questioning a lot of the contradictions in the bible and i guess became agnostic. middle school rolls around and i’m an atheist. throughout middle and high school i felt like i had to keep that from my family because i feared the backlash, especially from my mom’s side of the family, and unfortunately i was right about that. i don’t remember why it came out exactly, but i think i was talking to my aunt who works in healthcare about my emerging mental health issues and she said something to the effect of “just have faith in god and i’ll pray for you” or something. and i was just so fed up with being ignored and told i was overreacting and over dramatic (when in fact i have and had real mental health problems) that i said “well i’m an atheist.” and of course came the backlash. i was told by MULTIPLE family members that my religious beliefs (or lack thereof) hurt them and were disrespectful (literally how?). i never engaged in any religious discourse with any of them again because it wasn’t worth the headache. i wasn’t trying to impede on their right to their beliefs, i just didn’t need it being shoved down my throat when i was trying to reach out for help. anyway, in high school and college, i started getting more curious about judaism and jewish culture. while i’m glad my parents never *really* forced me into a religion, i wish my dad and his dad would’ve taught me more about it because now i feel like i’m trying to play catch up in learning about my heritage/ethnicity. i still am not religious tho.

    • Odessa

      778d

      Does anyone else have high anxiety when it comes to there body or even trying to except compliments from either your significant other or your spouse because the way you look has changed so much through the years

    • potatochip

      778d

      jdubz It’s horrible when people react as if someone’s atheism is a personal insult to them! As your family did, and when people try to push on others that religious belief must solve their mental & physical health problems. That therapist I mentioned always did the same thing until the day she exploded (because I wanted to try medication for social anxiety, and she didn’t believe in using it). I can also relate to learning about your heritage/ethnicity at a later age. I recently started trying to learn more about my mom’s family’s history.

    • PhoneticElk

      778d

      I understand your perspective on it but I think your teacher probably thought you were making a really poor joke during the quizbowl. Like haha let's say this bible story is the plot of a SciFi book because its sooooo unbelievable. If she knew you were atheist she probably got even more mad thinking it was a joke. She probably didn't know that you never learned any of the stories before because they are so commonly known even by other atheists and even religions. Some people even "pretend" not to know things to make jokes, which makes people who don't actually know get hurt. This isn't to the same scale but in kindergarten we had a rotation to different areas of the classroom to do different activities, and your supposed to point at something on the map and the teacher was taking forever to come check off I had pointed to the right thing, and my pointer finger got tired so I used my middle finger. I don't remember what happened after that but I know I argued with some kids, the teacher got mad, got sent to detention, all because I didn't know the middle finger being up was a bad gesture. I was like 5yr. The fact that I even remember that really says how much it ended up impacting me. I also went to a church for free breakfast with my stepdads mom for awhile, I already was uncomfortable because I'm not religious but when they said being gay was a sin, I felt like if they found out I'd be burned at the stake so I stopped going, I didn't care if there was free food anymore. I was 14yr. That was in Michigan.

    • saggee

      779d

      Any kind of religion makes me tense up because I was raised (and still am being resided) in a household where if you aren’t Christian, you’re going to Hell, and I’m terrified of that. My mom keeps talking about the end of the world, or “End Times” in Christianity and the signs are similar to todays world. I’m terrified of waking up in the morning and everyone’s gone. I’m terrified of any mention of religion. I constantly doubt my sexuality and believe I’m straight and I can’t do anything because I’m scared I’ll die tomorrow and be sent to hell. It’s a constant war battle with myself. I don’t know what I believe but it’s clear that until I get out of my current household, it will be Christianity.

    • jdubz

      779d

      sheesh that was a long comment

    • jdubz

      779d

      i first wanna say that therapist you saw when you were 16 absolutely should not be a therapist, point blank period. that reaction is wildly inappropriate and crosses so many professional boundaries. your quiz bowl coach/science teacher being angry at you about RELIGION is super ironic. not to say that science and religion are totally mutually exclusive, but the two main theories on the creation of the world are that of science and that of religion. regardless, again super inappropriate, and i’m so sorry you experienced that. my story is this: my dad’s side of the family is ethnically jewish, and he and his brothers were raised in judaism. my mom’s side of the family is catholic, tho her mom was protestant and converted to catholicism to marry my mom’s dad. my dad converted to catholicism as well to marry my mom. i don’t remember hardly anything from my childhood due to ptsd, but apparently when my brother and i were very young we went to sunday school since my mom was a teacher there (i have absolutely no recollection of this). over the next few years, we had even less church involvement and stopped going altogether. in 3rd grade i went to an after school bible club, which was my “choice” but it was heavily influenced by my mom’s catholic family. the next couple years i started questioning a lot of the contradictions in the bible and i guess became agnostic. middle school rolls around and i’m an atheist. throughout middle and high school i felt like i had to keep that from my family because i feared the backlash, especially from my mom’s side of the family, and unfortunately i was right about that. i don’t remember why it came out exactly, but i think i was talking to my aunt who works in healthcare about my emerging mental health issues and she said something to the effect of “just have faith in god and i’ll pray for you” or something. and i was just so fed up with being ignored and told i was overreacting and over dramatic (when in fact i have and had real mental health problems) that i said “well i’m an atheist.” and of course came the backlash. i was told by MULTIPLE family members that my religious beliefs (or lack thereof) hurt them and were disrespectful (literally how?). i never engaged in any religious discourse with any of them again because it wasn’t worth the headache. i wasn’t trying to impede on their right to their beliefs, i just didn’t need it being shoved down my throat when i was trying to reach out for help. anyway, in high school and college, i started getting more curious about judaism and jewish culture. while i’m glad my parents never *really* forced me into a religion, i wish my dad and his dad would’ve taught me more about it because now i feel like i’m trying to play catch up in learning about my heritage/ethnicity. i still am not religious tho.

    • potatochip

      779d

      Charlotte2468 Thank you for your response, I can actually see quite a few parallels between our experiences! ❤️ It is stressful having to hide your religious beliefs growing up. I’m sorry that you went through that pain as well. One girl interrogated me about my family’s religious beliefs because she actually wanted to be friends, but she was not allowed to by her family due to my family’s religious background. It is hard having to live under / fly under the radar of a religion that you’re not even part of... I think we can certainly relate on that

    • potatochip

      779d

      Thank you for your response, I can actually see quite a few parallels between our experiences! ❤️ It is stressful having to hide your religious beliefs growing up. I’m sorry that you went through that pain as well. One girl interrogated me about my family’s religious beliefs because she actually wanted to be friends, but she was not allowed to by her family due to my family’s religious background. It is hard having to live under / fly under the radar of a religion that you’re not even part of... I think we can certainly relate on that

    • castiel

      779d

      I do sort of. I was raised christian but realized i was an atheist, it wasn't a huge deal but several people have tried to argue with me about my beliefs. Currently i identify with a certain term associated with religion that has been wildy misrepresented, so if i tell anyone they assume im like evil. So yeah lol i kinda get it

    • Kotabear

      779d

      Thx I really appreciate it

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